You know, I think you're completely right. There are so many places with 'garden centers' around here now that people just go to those instead of the really neat places. It makes me sad. All they really carry at those sorts of places are 'standard' plants from what I can tell, nothing really unique or different. I've never seen Home Depot or Lowes carry cool things like interesting rose cultivars or nifty vines or columbines or anything like that, which just isn't as fun. And they have no wagons to ride in neither. ;_;